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		<title>By: Mark Rowe</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23168</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As previously mentioned:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
These features are only available in nightly builds of WebKit at this point. Visit &lt;a href='http://nightly.webkit.org/' rel="nofollow"&gt;nightly.webkit.org&lt;/a&gt; and grab the latest build to try them out.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As previously mentioned:</p>
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These features are only available in nightly builds of WebKit at this point. Visit <a href='http://nightly.webkit.org/' rel="nofollow">nightly.webkit.org</a> and grab the latest build to try them out.
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		<title>By: pohl</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23166</link>
		<dc:creator>pohl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do I need to view this page in in order to see these effects for myself?   It appears that
I'm only seeing the degraded behaviour.

I have tried  Safari 3.0.3 (522.12.1) on Tiger, and
Safari 3.0.4 (5523.10) on Leopard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do I need to view this page in in order to see these effects for myself?   It appears that<br />
I&#8217;m only seeing the degraded behaviour.</p>
<p>I have tried  Safari 3.0.3 (522.12.1) on Tiger, and<br />
Safari 3.0.4 (5523.10) on Leopard.</p>
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		<title>By: Surfin’ Safari - Blog Archive » CSS Animation at Nuclear Blog</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23165</link>
		<dc:creator>Surfin’ Safari - Blog Archive » CSS Animation at Nuclear Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Surfin’ Safari - Blog Archive » CSS Animation We have another cool new CSS feature to talk about: animation specified in CSS. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Surfin’ Safari - Blog Archive » CSS Animation We have another cool new CSS feature to talk about: animation specified in CSS. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: caesarsgrunt</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23147</link>
		<dc:creator>caesarsgrunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another question - sorry!
Is there a reference of 'experimental' -webkit- css anywhere, other than scattered through this blog? It would be great if there was - sort of like Mozilla have, but hopefully more detailed :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another question - sorry!<br />
Is there a reference of &#8216;experimental&#8217; -webkit- css anywhere, other than scattered through this blog? It would be great if there was - sort of like Mozilla have, but hopefully more detailed <img src='http://webkit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: caesarsgrunt</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23146</link>
		<dc:creator>caesarsgrunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you're saying about providing these features for OS X's sake even if they don't get standardised, and in principle I think that's great (though of course, I really hope they do get standardised). However, I've got a sort of endless loop-style argument going round inside my head about whether it's 'safe' or not...
The main problem that I see is the -webkit-. I fully understand what this is for (although I can't remember what it's called) and to be honest, I can't think of a better alternative - but I still don't like it! The same applies to -moz- and -o-, of course. I end up having to specify things like opacity four times (including Microsoft's stupid filter) in order to make it work cross-(modern)-browser!

Can anyone tell me the difference between -khtml- and -webkit-? I understand that their roots are obviously different, but in my limited experiments both seem to function identically. I tend to use -khtml-, mainly because it sounds like it's probably more likely to be compatible with KHTML browsers - are the two functionally identical in WebKit? Or perhaps in both WebKit and KHTML...? Which should I use? (I'm not sure if there's even a difference between WebKit and KHTML anymore... Is there?)

On a subject slightly more relevant to the original post - is there any way to use these properties to achieve transitions between pages, like with Microsoft's horrible proprietary code?

BTW - I like this (experimental, I know) feature so much that I'm already using it on all my sites. :) (To smooth off the sudden switches in link style when hovered, for example.)

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you&#8217;re saying about providing these features for OS X&#8217;s sake even if they don&#8217;t get standardised, and in principle I think that&#8217;s great (though of course, I really hope they do get standardised). However, I&#8217;ve got a sort of endless loop-style argument going round inside my head about whether it&#8217;s &#8217;safe&#8217; or not&#8230;<br />
The main problem that I see is the -webkit-. I fully understand what this is for (although I can&#8217;t remember what it&#8217;s called) and to be honest, I can&#8217;t think of a better alternative - but I still don&#8217;t like it! The same applies to -moz- and -o-, of course. I end up having to specify things like opacity four times (including Microsoft&#8217;s stupid filter) in order to make it work cross-(modern)-browser!</p>
<p>Can anyone tell me the difference between -khtml- and -webkit-? I understand that their roots are obviously different, but in my limited experiments both seem to function identically. I tend to use -khtml-, mainly because it sounds like it&#8217;s probably more likely to be compatible with KHTML browsers - are the two functionally identical in WebKit? Or perhaps in both WebKit and KHTML&#8230;? Which should I use? (I&#8217;m not sure if there&#8217;s even a difference between WebKit and KHTML anymore&#8230; Is there?)</p>
<p>On a subject slightly more relevant to the original post - is there any way to use these properties to achieve transitions between pages, like with Microsoft&#8217;s horrible proprietary code?</p>
<p>BTW - I like this (experimental, I know) feature so much that I&#8217;m already using it on all my sites. <img src='http://webkit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> (To smooth off the sudden switches in link style when hovered, for example.)</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: hyatt</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23140</link>
		<dc:creator>hyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jakob, yes the element will still receive events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jakob, yes the element will still receive events.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23137</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the first example, it seems to fade in much quicker than it fades out. Is that just an illusion?

BTW, I think this is fantastic work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the first example, it seems to fade in much quicker than it fades out. Is that just an illusion?</p>
<p>BTW, I think this is fantastic work!</p>
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		<title>By: Jakob Peterhänsel</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23136</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakob Peterhänsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, way cool.

One thing that pops up in my mind, without having made a test other that with this page:

Does the element in question (like, in a fade-out) still receive events? It seems so on example 3, and that would be cool when used on sub-menues, so they can start a fadeout when the cursor leaves the 'safe-area' and give visual feedback, instead of just popping away. Would make navigation more safe, I guess... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, way cool.</p>
<p>One thing that pops up in my mind, without having made a test other that with this page:</p>
<p>Does the element in question (like, in a fade-out) still receive events? It seems so on example 3, and that would be cool when used on sub-menues, so they can start a fadeout when the cursor leaves the &#8217;safe-area&#8217; and give visual feedback, instead of just popping away. Would make navigation more safe, I guess&#8230; <img src='http://webkit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rowe</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23133</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If something is not working correctly you should &lt;a href='http://webkit.org/quality/reporting.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;file a bug report&lt;/a&gt;.  Be sure to double-check that you are in fact testing with a nightly build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If something is not working correctly you should <a href='http://webkit.org/quality/reporting.html' rel="nofollow">file a bug report</a>.  Be sure to double-check that you are in fact testing with a nightly build.</p>
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		<title>By: bstewart</title>
		<link>http://webkit.org/blog/138/css-animation/#comment-23132</link>
		<dc:creator>bstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, it doesn't appear to be functioning as described in Safari for Windows using Vista Home Basic. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, it doesn&#8217;t appear to be functioning as described in Safari for Windows using Vista Home Basic. <img src='http://webkit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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