Comments on: The Obligatory iPhone Post http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/ All about WebKit development Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:00:28 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: smime » Blog Archive » Microcontent, Browser Wars and the future of TV http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-22620 smime » Blog Archive » Microcontent, Browser Wars and the future of TV Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:58:06 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-22620 [...] of the embedded devices that we are facing. The iPhone obviously runs on Safari, or more precisely WebKit, I bet Apple TV too, the Wii runs Opera/KHTML and all Microsoft devices will run IE7 or the like [...] [...] of the embedded devices that we are facing. The iPhone obviously runs on Safari, or more precisely WebKit, I bet Apple TV too, the Wii runs Opera/KHTML and all Microsoft devices will run IE7 or the like [...]

]]> By: eduFutureBlog» Blog Archive » iPhone setzt modernem Lernen Grenzen http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-16895 eduFutureBlog» Blog Archive » iPhone setzt modernem Lernen Grenzen Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:19:19 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-16895 [...] The new walled garden is not the content you can view on your phone, but rather the applications that you can install on your phone. So [...] [...] The new walled garden is not the content you can view on your phone, but rather the applications that you can install on your phone. So [...]

]]> By: hyatt http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-16882 hyatt Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:49:07 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-16882 Media queries solve these sorts of issues. With them you can find out specific information about screen size and so on and write style rules based on those assumptions. Media queries solve these sorts of issues. With them you can find out specific information about screen size and so on and write style rules based on those assumptions.

]]> By: Mobile Learning » Walled Gardens and Mobile Learning http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-16872 Mobile Learning » Walled Gardens and Mobile Learning Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:42:06 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-16872 [...] more open access to content and functionality. Doug T writes: “The new walled garden is not the content you can view on your phone, [...] [...] more open access to content and functionality. Doug T writes: “The new walled garden is not the content you can view on your phone, [...]

]]> By: asbjornu http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-16869 asbjornu Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:12:26 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-16869 MuPu, that can be achieved through CSS. Not sure if the iPhone browser supports the 'media="handheld"' attribute, but if it does (and it should!), you can just serve a separate stylesheet to all handheld devices to make your existing markup look like a slideshow or whatever you want. No need for a separate website with different markup, unless as I've already mentioned, your original website is overly complicated (which probably is a good incentive to redesign it for the desktop as well). MuPu, that can be achieved through CSS. Not sure if the iPhone browser supports the ‘media=”handheld”‘ attribute, but if it does (and it should!), you can just serve a separate stylesheet to all handheld devices to make your existing markup look like a slideshow or whatever you want. No need for a separate website with different markup, unless as I’ve already mentioned, your original website is overly complicated (which probably is a good incentive to redesign it for the desktop as well).

]]> By: MuPu.com http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-16868 MuPu.com Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:55:59 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-16868 New here -- and way out of my element. I understand there may not be a technical need to redesign a site for display on the iPhone -- unless the site is already too complicated. But wouldn't it make sense, from a marketing standpoint, to optimize a secondary site (say, "iwhatever.com") for the techie or executive audience? Something stripped down for the on-the-fly, short-attention-span, busy person? Maybe pages that look more like PowerPoint slides or like billboards? And a Contact Us page that just gives them what they need to make the call? It just seems that selling something to a woman in high heels, who's trying to catch a plane and not spill her cappuccino, requires a different approach than selling the same thing to a guy eating chips in his den. I'm no expert, but most of you are -- so thanks in advance for your input. New here — and way out of my element.
I understand there may not be a technical need to redesign a site for display on the iPhone — unless the site is already too complicated. But wouldn’t it make sense, from a marketing standpoint, to optimize a secondary site (say, “iwhatever.com”) for the techie or executive audience? Something stripped down for the on-the-fly, short-attention-span, busy person? Maybe pages that look more like PowerPoint slides or like billboards? And a Contact Us page that just gives them what they need to make the call?
It just seems that selling something to a woman in high heels, who’s trying to catch a plane and not spill her cappuccino, requires a different approach than selling the same thing to a guy eating chips in his den.
I’m no expert, but most of you are — so thanks in advance for your input.

]]> By: asbjornu http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-16862 asbjornu Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:28:44 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-16862 It's absolutely true that we don't need a separate mobile web. WAP was necessary 7 years ago because the bandwidth of those phones was so spectaclurarly bad and because the monitors and hardware on the phones back then couldn't render anything more complex than a black/white 64x64 pixel image. But as CSS and HTML has advanced, the .mobi TLD, WAP and the likes should be dropped dead. They are completely useless and I wonder when "The Enterprise" will get it. If you need a separate WAP version of your web page to make it usable on a mobile phone you should ask yourself whether the page is a tad bit too complex, even for a desktop browser. It’s absolutely true that we don’t need a separate mobile web. WAP was necessary 7 years ago because the bandwidth of those phones was so spectaclurarly bad and because the monitors and hardware on the phones back then couldn’t render anything more complex than a black/white 64×64 pixel image.

But as CSS and HTML has advanced, the .mobi TLD, WAP and the likes should be dropped dead. They are completely useless and I wonder when “The Enterprise” will get it. If you need a separate WAP version of your web page to make it usable on a mobile phone you should ask yourself whether the page is a tad bit too complex, even for a desktop browser.

]]> By: BAM http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-16794 BAM Sat, 13 Jan 2007 09:13:45 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-16794 I hope that a team will be dedicated to improve Outlook Web Access and implement Domino Web Access into safari. OWA is not that great today and DWA does not exists. Business people might be able to buy this device for themself... but not being able to access the Corp email is really a bad things that will make current WinCE phone and Blackberry phone still a better value. I hope that a team will be dedicated to improve Outlook Web Access and implement Domino Web Access into safari. OWA is not that great today and DWA does not exists. Business people might be able to buy this device for themself… but not being able to access the Corp email is really a bad things that will make current WinCE phone and Blackberry phone still a better value.

]]> By: Develops.mobi » What does the iPhone mean for dotMobi? http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-16778 Develops.mobi » What does the iPhone mean for dotMobi? Sat, 13 Jan 2007 03:50:47 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-16778 [...] feels like it really could be the year that the mobile web starts to build up momentum. A number of people have discussed the impact of Apple’s iPhone announcement on the purpose of the .mobi top-leve [...] [...] feels like it really could be the year that the mobile web starts to build up momentum. A number of people have discussed the impact of Apple’s iPhone announcement on the purpose of the .mobi top-leve [...]

]]> By: dotMobi http://webkit.org/blog/87/safari-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-16729 dotMobi Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:50:30 +0000 http://webkit.org/blog/?p=87#comment-16729 <strong>What does the iPhone mean for dotMobi?</strong> A quick word of introduction: I'm James Pearce, the new dotMobi CTO. I've been working with the mobile web for over seven years now, and I'm excited about this. 2007 feels like it really could be the year that the What does the iPhone mean for dotMobi?

A quick word of introduction: I’m James Pearce, the new dotMobi CTO. I’ve been working with the mobile web for over seven years now, and I’m excited about this. 2007 feels like it really could be the year that the

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